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From: [personal profile] ivy


Yes, and yet, still crushed. Normally I can keep my professional face on, but I'm having a hard time of it with this one. I really just want to a) fix it, which is itself very challenging and probably beyond my capability, and then b) smite all of them.

From: [identity profile] uncledark.livejournal.com


So...

Smiting all of them is not very challenging or beyond your capability?
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From: [personal profile] ivy


Hahahaha. Present by implication, neh?

I'm sure it gets a lot easier if you don't care about collateral damage, but I do.

From: [identity profile] uncledark.livejournal.com


When working at an occult store, a friend and I frequently looked at one another and said, "If it weren't for these pesky ethics, I could get rich off of people like that."
ivy: (axe barbie)

From: [personal profile] ivy


Yep. Sadly, not caring about collateral damage was one of the things that got us all into this mess. It sucks that being effective and good is harder than being effective and evil.

From: [identity profile] uncledark.livejournal.com


Truths like that lead me to question the nature (and utility) of good and evil, as categories.

Much of the time, good seems more long term, evil more immediate gratification. Good is spending all summer mucking about in shit and dirt so that next year you'll have a good garden. Evil is saying, "Fuck it, I'll just spray this chemical crap all over everything. Sure, it will eventually kill the soil, but I'll have sold this house and moved somewhere better before that happens..."

From: [identity profile] syndramise.livejournal.com


Sounds a lot like the organizational communication failures that came out of NASA prior to the Challenger disaster. Talk about not learning from other people's mistakes.

From: [identity profile] uncledark.livejournal.com


Nah. A communications failure is, "oops, did you not get that memo?"

This is more like, "Hey, you keep telling people that our pipeline is about to fail and we'll fire you, ruin your career, and leave your family destitute." It's an organized attempt to make a fast buck and damn the consequences.

From: [identity profile] syndramise.livejournal.com


The NASA example was a prime example used in seminars and classes on Organizational or Corporate Communications (actually the failure thereof, hence the term I used) in the early 90's. That example was that the engineers had told the decision-makers that the O-rings were faulty and would fail, and they provided ample documentation to prove it. But the decision-makers didn't want to incur the cost of delaying the launch to fix the problem, so they ignored the information, the O-rings failed, and the Challenger exploded. It's a communication failure. It's just people who know there's a problem going "HEY! THERE'S A PROBLEM!" and the money-grubbers going "Nyah-nyah-nyah I can't hear you, and make sure no one else can hear you, either!"

*stabbitystabbitystabbity* The system, it is broken.

From: [identity profile] uncledark.livejournal.com


Oh, the system is broken, sure. I just think this is broken slightly more than the NASA case.
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