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You know, I was going to write a background explaining why I'm arguing with Tal. (Or perhaps 'stupid enough to not recognize at this point that arguing with Tal is pointless.') I really can't make it matter enough to do so just now, though.
At this point, he's wandering around alt.poly demanding to know if Christianity and polyamory are compatible. Applications of![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
xiphias's Law are not sufficient; he wants to know if According To What's Official, This Is Permissable.
I suppose I shouldn't be expecting an awareness of diversity from someone who claims that paganism is equivalent to the worship of a mother goddess (male gods need not apply) and who is fixed on bonobist notions, but, and I use the phrase advisedly, for Christ's sake, why does he think that there are various Christian sects? Just for a variety in selection of cross-shaped jewelry?
Given that the various Christian sects have a hard time agreeing on subjects like actual religious doctrine, given that the denomination I call my own has politics that are teeter-tottering around schism over the matter of the treatment of gays, given all this, I have no earthly idea how he can conceive that a subject not given consideration by a majority of denominations and not of interest to a majority of members of the faith is going to have a monolithic, handed-down-from-above answer.
We're talking about a religion whose textual basis disagrees with itself on how many generations there were between important religious figures and can't agree on the origin of the divine inspiration of its central figure, and he wants to know what the official documentation on polyamory is.
Jehosephat.
At this point, he's wandering around alt.poly demanding to know if Christianity and polyamory are compatible. Applications of
xiphias's Law are not sufficient; he wants to know if According To What's Official, This Is Permissable.I suppose I shouldn't be expecting an awareness of diversity from someone who claims that paganism is equivalent to the worship of a mother goddess (male gods need not apply) and who is fixed on bonobist notions, but, and I use the phrase advisedly, for Christ's sake, why does he think that there are various Christian sects? Just for a variety in selection of cross-shaped jewelry?
Given that the various Christian sects have a hard time agreeing on subjects like actual religious doctrine, given that the denomination I call my own has politics that are teeter-tottering around schism over the matter of the treatment of gays, given all this, I have no earthly idea how he can conceive that a subject not given consideration by a majority of denominations and not of interest to a majority of members of the faith is going to have a monolithic, handed-down-from-above answer.
We're talking about a religion whose textual basis disagrees with itself on how many generations there were between important religious figures and can't agree on the origin of the divine inspiration of its central figure, and he wants to know what the official documentation on polyamory is.
Jehosephat.
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Just a thought.7
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What I figure (not that you asked) is that if you, personally, can reconcile this within yourself, and your partner(s) are okay with it, then everyone else can just suck it down, since the important people think it's fine.
I wish people would just keep out of other people's lives.
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Actually, my particular Christian religion doesn't even wear cross-shaped jewelry. (We're supposed to concentrate on Jesus's life and resurrection, not the means of his death - my sister compares wearing a cross to wearing a gun necklace while talking to a shooting victim.)
If he wants to know if his version of Christianity and polyamory are Permissible, he should ask the one in charge of it. Does he, personally, feel that it's a good, acceptable thing? If so, go for it. If he has doubts, maybe he should pray and resolve them, instead of trying to find someone without authority over him personally to give him permission. People who can't figure out their own religious beliefs really irritate me.
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Christianity is all about two rules. The rest flow from your interpretation of those two.
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What he is is a pagan who defines "pagan" as "worships a Mother Goddess, and if you have any male gods you're not a real pagan".
Needless to say, he gets prodded sharply about his use of language a lot.
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There's a lovely riff on that theme.
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Well, ok, so he's at least consistent.
So, his religion has a canonical and absolute form, and therefore Christianity must have one as well.
And the people who point out that Christianity has a wide range of forms are no doubt essentially the same class of wrongheaded nitwits who claim that his definition of "Pagan" is wrong.
Sigh.
- Brooks
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True. But that isn't my point. I'm asking -- and I'm seriously trying to understand -- if Christian and poly beliefs are compatible. Some here have said yes, but so far only for individuals in the personal sense. I'm trying to look at the broader picture and ask objectively from the standard accepted book definitions if they are.
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