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So a fair number of people are discussing gendering at the moment. Most of these people aren't actually people whose journals I read regularly, but a couple of people whose journals I do read regularly have been commenting upon same with occasional links back.
I have a weird sort of interaction with matters of gender.
On ap, the standard of politeness is to use 'zie' or other gender-neutral pronouns for folks who one's not aware of preference for. When this gets used on me, it drives me completely insane. I consider GNP useful for people whose gender is unknown, unspecified, or other; my gender is none of these. Being identified as a 'he' is several (perhaps five or six) orders of magnitude more accurate than being referred to as a 'zie'. It actually has components of 'true' to it.
Most of the time I'm comfortable accepting 'female' as a word that describes me. I can't say I identify as female; it isn't a matter that has that much sfik-value for me. I've always had the basic attitude-feeling that if I do it, it has to be the sort of thing that women do, more or less.
Except.
Except.
When I'm spending time with women -- with Earth-woman-gendered-women -- I often wind up feeling like I'm doing the whole woman thing somehow wrong.
(This thought comes out in pretty simple trigonometry; for those people who run screaming from mathematics, I apologise; I can't do it any better.)
Unit circle centered on the origin; X-axis female-ness, Y-axis maleness. I'm not on either of the axes; I'm up about thirty degrees or so. I have a distinct, specified, very clear gender, located somewhere about half root-3 X + .5 Y, and when I'm near women who're near 1 on X, I'm clearly not fulfilling what womanness is by comparison, because I've got an angle there that I'm taking the cosine of to get there. Unit length falls short.
My gender is not unknown, unspecified, or other; it's just . . . a bit irrational.
"She" is close enough for everyday use. Call it about 86.6% accurate.
I have a weird sort of interaction with matters of gender.
On ap, the standard of politeness is to use 'zie' or other gender-neutral pronouns for folks who one's not aware of preference for. When this gets used on me, it drives me completely insane. I consider GNP useful for people whose gender is unknown, unspecified, or other; my gender is none of these. Being identified as a 'he' is several (perhaps five or six) orders of magnitude more accurate than being referred to as a 'zie'. It actually has components of 'true' to it.
Most of the time I'm comfortable accepting 'female' as a word that describes me. I can't say I identify as female; it isn't a matter that has that much sfik-value for me. I've always had the basic attitude-feeling that if I do it, it has to be the sort of thing that women do, more or less.
Except.
Except.
When I'm spending time with women -- with Earth-woman-gendered-women -- I often wind up feeling like I'm doing the whole woman thing somehow wrong.
(This thought comes out in pretty simple trigonometry; for those people who run screaming from mathematics, I apologise; I can't do it any better.)
Unit circle centered on the origin; X-axis female-ness, Y-axis maleness. I'm not on either of the axes; I'm up about thirty degrees or so. I have a distinct, specified, very clear gender, located somewhere about half root-3 X + .5 Y, and when I'm near women who're near 1 on X, I'm clearly not fulfilling what womanness is by comparison, because I've got an angle there that I'm taking the cosine of to get there. Unit length falls short.
My gender is not unknown, unspecified, or other; it's just . . . a bit irrational.
"She" is close enough for everyday use. Call it about 86.6% accurate.
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I think you're closer to 'female' than I am, and I'm more 'geek' than you, if you want my opinion on targeting solutions. ;)
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Well, my take on it is more that gender is great, but it's not nearly as relevant to personality as many people seem to think it is. Certainly not when you start talking about individuals instead of population averages. I think I would actually make a better Traditional Male than I would a Traditional Female, but I certainly consider myself to be a perfectly good female as I am. (I guess this is my little fantasy world again, where the virtues of female-ness include strength and assertiveness.)
But that goes back to the fact I obliquely alluded to before, that my friends tend to be more towards the center of the traditional male / female continuum than Joe or Jane Average are. I just don't find the people who are exaggerated caricatures of either gender very appealing.
The things I find admirable in men I also find admirable in women, and vice versa. Not that there's no difference due to gender, but to me such differences are more like hearing the same piece interpreted by two different pianists, rather than completely different pieces of music. Or should be, anyway, in any reasonably evolved human being.
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I have no further comment to make, principally because I'm too busy to think about it properly, and it's the sort of subject that requires several hours of thought rather than a few minutes of waffle :/