kiya: (boggled)
kiya ([personal profile] kiya) wrote2007-06-22 01:56 pm

More probably in the blog later

Today, it occurs to me that someone who can seriously maintain mind/body dualism such that treatments of the two are in separate moral categories probably has the luck to have not had much experience with mental illness, chronic illness, or disability.

Given, that, y'know, I treat depression mostly with nutritional considerations and by trying to keep an eye on my activity level. And am familiar with the consequences on the psyche of the limitations of my body, though not as much so as some folks reading this.

Also given that my brother was at least at one point on a serotonin-related medication so that he didn't starve to death. Which is not unrelated to why I treat the depression nutritionally.

I will probably rant about this in the blog later, but damnit.

([livejournal.com profile] zeborahnz and [livejournal.com profile] green_knight, yes, this is related to the obvious context. I cannot participate more directly in the conversation there and remain within standards of civility that I would prefer to maintain, and unlike this bit of idiocy with the same party I am not required to be engaged directly.)

[identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com 2007-06-22 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, mind is part of body, body is part of mind, as someone whose depression evaporated after she went off the gluten, I grok all too damn well. Fneh.
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[personal profile] redbird 2007-06-22 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get it either, but most people seem not only to be able to seriously entertain mind-body dualism, but seem startled that I don't give it house-room.

[identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com 2007-06-23 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
I had a serious case of 'wha?' not just in that thread, but in the one before. I feel that I ought to leave one last comment; but I also feel that if I jump in right now, I don't think it would work.

I have a feeling of having stepped sideways into another universe again. I don't remember this poster as being so belligerent and quarrelsome, or rather, I seem to have blocked those episodes from my mind, because the one you referred to stuck vaguely in my mind (but not who initiated it); and I now remember having said something in relation to the scene discussed in a previous thread that had boiled down to 'this is bland, you need telling detail' which he refuted furiously at the time and now repeated as an insight he gained himself, and I was equally puzzled by his demeanour then.

People are seriously weird sometimes.